Bernie Sanders 2020

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#1Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 1/26/19 at 4:54am

It looks like its happening, again.


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000

UncleCharlie
#2Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 1/26/19 at 9:52pm

Some, but not all the women on his 2016 campaign were sexually harassed. So clearly, he must feel there is still some unfinished business to take care of.

Updated On: 1/26/19 at 09:52 PM

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#3Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 1/27/19 at 12:21am

Sorry. Too old. His ship has sailed. If he won the 2020 election, he would be sworn in at the age of 79. I would be concerned that he wouldn't have the stamina or cognitive abilities needed to serve two full 4-year terms. He should endorse the candidate who most closely represents his views and vision, and work to get him or her elected. 


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#4Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 1/27/19 at 6:09pm

I agree, he's simply too old. There are a lot of great young men and women to chose from.  

#5Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 1/28/19 at 8:47am

Starbucks ex-CEO Harold Schultz has announced that he's considering a run as an Indie. Bernie is yesterday's news.

Schultz 'unfazed' by pushback to 2020 candidacy by Dems (thehill.com)

Updated On: 1/28/19 at 08:47 AM

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#6Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 1/28/19 at 9:10am

Bernie Sanders 2020


"I shall stay until the wind changes."

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#7Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 1/29/19 at 5:49am

I love Kamala but I think the nominee will have to be a white man. We went two steps forward with Obama and then one step back with Trump. So my bets are on Biden or someone like the governor of Montana. I do not think a woman or a person of color could win this time around. I hope I am wrong. If Trump wins another term then perhaps Gavin Newsom could follow.

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#8Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 1/29/19 at 10:12am

 "...I think the nominee will have to be a white man"

I agree and suggest that it should be a white man with Rust Belt or Midwest ties and who at least looks like he experienced a playground fight as a kid.  Terry Mcauliffe isn't quite right and Bernie isn't any kind of right.

"If Trump wins another term then perhaps Gavin Newsom could follow."

I agree again and suggest that Kamala's candidacy is an attempt to get out ahead of the Gavin in the potus race since both hail from CA.  Despite not being a Dem, I worry that Elizabeth Warren and Kamala will steal each other's thunder.  While I'm fond of both, I don't see 270 for either against Trump.

I still predict that the GOP will produce the first woman president, likely Nikki Haley.


#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.

Armie3
#9Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/4/19 at 7:40am

^ What do you think Nikki's timeframe will be? Will she challenge DT for 2020? If he wins, in 2024 the Republicans are less likely to get three terms, so that would make 2028?

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#10Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/4/19 at 9:56am

Since I will vote for whomever gets the Democratic nomination (even Bernie Sanders ugh), I'm looking to support the candidate who will get to 270 in the easiest way possible. And that's looking like Sherrod Brown of Ohio. He would most likely flip Ohio and take Pennsylvania with it and that's the ball game. Even if he lost Michigan and Wisconsin and Florida and North Carolina. 

I also really really really really like Pete Buttigieg from South Bend, Indiana. 37 years old, veteran, Harvard grad, Rhodes Scholar, progressive, gay, and speaks in an incredibly thoughtful, level-headed, and poised manner. I would love to see him in either spot on the ticket.


"I shall stay until the wind changes."
Updated On: 2/4/19 at 09:56 AM

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#11Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/4/19 at 5:05pm

I forget what Sunday show I saw the South Bend mayor but he was impressive, good selections Lyls.


Stephanatic

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#12Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/5/19 at 3:17pm

Buttigieg seems like the Obama to everyone else's Hillary right now: younger, black sheep, less-well-known, a minority with a less-than-telegenic name that plays into the worst stereotypes about them (you can bet a gay politician whose name begins with BUTT is going to play the same way "Hussein Obama" did for eight years), but charisma, wisdom an substantive policy.

It's a question of whether an underdog can rise to the cream of the crop when not only against a party but a cult of personality.

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#13Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/6/19 at 7:02am

Tired of all the Bernie bashing.

Him being blamed for Clinton's loss to Trump.
Debra Messing comparing him to Judas.
People falsely saying he didn't work hard to get Clinton elected or that he wrongly stayed in the race too long (forgetting how long Clinton stayed in the 2008 race).
People falsely claiming Sanders supporters abandoned the Democrats (when so many of us, Bernie included, worked tirelessly to try to get Clinton elected... and forgetting all the Clinton primary supporters (Joe Lieberman included) who defected to McCain)

It's all garbage.

But having said all of that - Sanders, Clinton, Biden and all their baggage, whether deserved or not, should stay the &*()^ out of the 2020 race. 

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#14Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/6/19 at 10:31am

henrikegerman said: "Tired of all the Bernie bashing."

 

Sanders and his supporters handed the keys to the White House to the thug who currently occupies the Oval Office.

 

Updated On: 2/6/19 at 10:31 AM

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#15Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/6/19 at 10:54am

HereAndThere2 said: "henrikegerman said: "Tired of all the Bernie bashing."



Sanders and his supporters handed the keys to the White House to the thug who currently occupies the Oval Office.
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And this absurd certainty that he POSITIVELY, ABSOLUTELY, UNDENIABLY, AND RELIABLY would have won is another ridiculous way Sanders supporters continue to bash those who voted for Clinton. 

Seriously question though, has the Senator changed back to a Democrat yet? 


"I shall stay until the wind changes."

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#16Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/6/19 at 12:42pm

LYLS3637 said: "HereAndThere2 said: "henrikegerman said: "Tired of all the Bernie bashing."



Sanders and his supporters handed the keys to the White House to the thug who currently occupies the Oval Office.
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And this absurd certainty that he POSITIVELY, ABSOLUTELY, UNDENIABLY, AND RELIABLY would have won is another ridiculous way Sanders supporters continue to bash those who voted for Clinton.

Seriously question though, has the Senator changed back to a Democrat yet?
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I have never contended that Bernie would have certainly won the election if he had been the nominee.

I tell my fellow Sanders supporters who make that smug claim that they are just plain wrong.  No one knows what would have happened if Sanders had won the nomination.

But one thing I'm fairly certain of.

If Sanders had been the nominee and lost, a vast majority of Clinton supporters would be smugly making the parallel claim:  if we had only been practical and nominated HIllary Clinton she'd now be president, but no, we had to go crazy and nominate Bernie Sanders....

Of course we know that Hillary Clinton was the nominee and she didn't win.

But can anyone persuade me that I'm wrong that if Sanders had been the nominee and lost, 9/10 of us would be beating our chests for having not nominated Clinton, who so... how did you put it:  POSITIVELY, ABSOLUTELY, UNDENIABLY AND RELIABLY would have won!???

Hindsight, my friends, is always 20 20.

 

Updated On: 2/6/19 at 12:42 PM

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#17Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/6/19 at 12:53pm

And who gets blamed for Clinton losing?

Bernie, the Russians, Comey, the email hysteria, the Benghazi hysteria, Julian Assange, Facebook, Jill Stein even Clinton herself...

All of which are wrong.

The reason Clinton lost is because of the failures of America is the ignorance and stupidity of Americans.  The failure of our country to educate our children and to teach them how to think rather than worship at the altar of base celebrity, arrogance, bluster, greed and perceived wealth and utter disrespectability that Donald Trump embodies.

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#18Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/6/19 at 5:31pm

I don't think Trump will run again if he lasts the term.  The Democrats are going to face a pragmatist and they probably better match that strategy.  I was a Bernie all the way guy.  Like Henri we stood by Clinton.  Stop blaming Bernie, he has a message and he has been the Socialist some of us prefer.


Stephanatic

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#19Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/7/19 at 8:35am

HereAndThere2 said: "Sanders and his supporters handed the keys to the White House to the thug who currently occupies the Oval Office."

The only people responsible for him are the human garbage who voted for him.

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#20Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/7/19 at 10:24am

Also the people who didn't bother to vote at all.


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#21Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/9/19 at 2:10am

South Florida said: "I don't think Trump will run again if he lasts the term."

That would require him to set his ego aside and show some sort of self-awareness. I'm sure in his mind not running would be a sign of defeat and something he would never EVER admit to.

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#22Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/9/19 at 7:49am

Now we know the White House belongs to any big business or crook, who puts up the money.

You may as well have Ronald Macdonald or one of the Muppets

 

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#23Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/9/19 at 7:37pm

Bernie is how I roll.  He is how I rolled in 2016 when I voted for Clinton, and he is how I will roll when I vote for the next Dem nominee.  You're way off Lyl.

 


Stephanatic

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#24Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/10/19 at 12:25am

I would bet Nikki Haley runs in 2024. 

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#25Bernie Sanders 2020
Posted: 2/10/19 at 12:27am

"Tired of all the Bernie bashing.

Him being blamed for Clinton's loss to Trump.
Debra Messing comparing him to Judas.
People falsely saying he didn't work hard to get Clinton elected or that he wrongly stayed in the race too long (forgetting how long Clinton stayed in the 2008 race).
People falsely claiming Sanders supporters abandoned the Democrats (when so many of us, Bernie included, worked tirelessly to try to get Clinton elected... and forgetting all the Clinton primary supporters (Joe Lieberman included) who defected to McCain)"

Funny how people overlook or don't care that Debbie Wasserman Schultz screwed Bernie.