Mayor Pete- Page 2

[SmoothLover]

Posted: 6/3/19 at 9:52pm

He did a great job on Chris Matthews this evening. 6/3/19

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 6/3/19 at 10:15pm

"He did a great job on Chris Matthews this evening. 6/3/19"

Cmon, that is like saying Trump did a great job on "Hannity". This is why I miss somebody like Tim Russert so much. He may have worked for a Democrat but he was equally as hard on Democrats as Republicans. He was the classic example of "fair and balanced". Meet The Press has never been the same since he passed away !!

[SmoothLover]

Posted: 6/3/19 at 11:12pm

Matthews does lave a liking for Pete but Chris was hosting a townhall in Fresno, California so the majority of the program was questions from the audience. And not every audience member was  pro Pete. A woman for example said that she had no intention on voting for a man. And Pete quickly said that he understood and he thought a woman should  be in the white house now.

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Posted: 6/23/19 at 12:57pm

Pete and South Bend have had a rough week. Hopefully people don’t use the news from Indiana and his handling in the aftermath as an excuse to dismiss his candidacy.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/south-bend-indiana-pub-shooting-one-dead-10-injured

Updated On: 6/23/19 at 12:57 PM

[UncleCharlie]

Posted: 6/23/19 at 9:45pm

Rumpelstiltskin said: "Pete and South Bend have had a rough week. Hopefully people don’t use the news from Indiana and his handling in the aftermath as an excuse to dismiss his candidacy.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/south-bend-indiana-pub-shooting-one-dead-10-injured"

It's not an excuse, it's a reason. It speaks to his ability to handle a crisis and it also speaks to the relationships he has or hasn't built with the African American community in his city over the past 8 years. I've been very impressed by his thoughtfulness, intellect and command of the issues though I had concerns about him being seasoned enough to be president. This has given me pause. it's a nightmare scenario for any politician to have to handle, much less one who aspires to the highest office in the land, but what you have to handle only gets tougher the higher you go.

[SmoothLover]

Posted: 6/24/19 at 4:25am

UncleCharlie said: "Rumpelstiltskin said: "Pete and South Bend have had a rough week. Hopefully people don’t use the news from Indiana and his handling in the aftermath as an excuse to dismiss his candidacy.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/south-bend-indiana-pub-shooting-one-dead-10-injured"

It's not an excuse, it's a reason. It speaks to his ability to handle a crisis and it also speaks to the relationships he has or hasn't built with the African American community in his city over the past 8 years. I've been very impressed by his thoughtfulness,intellect and command of the issues though I had concerns about him being seasoned enough to be president. This has given me pause. it's a nightmare scenario for any politician to have to handle, much less one who aspires to the highest office in the land, but what you have to handle only gets tougher the higher you go."

I do not know if being seasoned is really a criteria any more. Look at the current President.

 

[UncleCharlie]

Posted: 6/24/19 at 4:47am

SmoothLover said: "I do not know if being seasoned is really a criteria any more. Look at the current President."

I don't know about you but I'd like a significant upgrade in the qualifications of the person we send to the White House in 2020. I'm not sure "well Trump wasn't seasoned so that's not important anymore" is a particularly compelling argument if I'm understanding your point correctly. In any event, I wouldn't even place lack of seasoning in the top 10 reasons, Trump is a horriible president.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Posted: 6/24/19 at 8:29am

@UncleCharlie - I don’t disagree with any of your points. I’m just afraid that while we have a rational discussion of the weaknesses of each candidate on the D side, Trump will use that to his advantage and sail into a second term. Your “it’s not an excuse, it’s a reason” argument is valid, but I don’t want us to find so many reasons that we lose sight of the only thing that really matters. Too many Democrats chose to sit out the election in 2016. We can’t let that happen again.

I’m at the early stages of infatuation with Mayor Pete. The first hiccup in a romance is always disappointing. Time will tell if our relationship lasts beyond the honeymoon stage.

[LYLS3637]

Posted: 6/24/19 at 9:49am

He's also the ONLY candidate with any level of support who would be tested in this way. Members of Congress and even Governors running would not be forced into this spotlight. I'm not saying he shouldn't have to answer to it, that's his job, but executive management is a big part of being President, and even an imperfect handling of a crisis like this shows me he's not afraid to confront it. With the 20 other candidates (who matter), it's just a big question mark.

Updated On: 6/24/19 at 09:49 AM

[SmoothLover]

Posted: 6/24/19 at 2:34pm

Rumpelstiltskin said: "@UncleCharlie - I don’t disagree with any of your points. I’m just afraid that while we have a rational discussion of the weaknesses of each candidate on the D side, Trump will use that to his advantage and sail into a second term. Your “it’s not an excuse, it’s a reason” argument is valid, but I don’t want us to find so many reasons that we lose sight of the only thing that really matters. Too many Democrats chose to sit out the election in 2016. We can’t let that happen again.

I’m at the early stages of infatuation with Mayor Pete. The first hiccup in a romance is always disappointing. Time will tell if our relationship lasts beyond the honeymoon stage."

 

I could not agree more and I have had the same thoughts. 

 

[UncleCharlie]

Posted: 6/24/19 at 8:12pm

I hear you guys but 2 things. 1) Some, if not most of the Democratic candidates are going to do their best to highlight the weaknesses of who they perceive as the front runner as Booker and Sanders demonstrated with their criticisms of Biden this past week. The candidates themselves are not refraining from criticisms of their rivals so I wouldn't worry too much about whether we as voters should be refraining from those discussions. and 2) Trump doesn't need anyone from the Democratic side to give him ammunition to talk sh#t about who he perceives as the biggest threat to him in the election on the democratic side. He's going to do it anyway. The stupid nicknames, the tweets from the RNC and Ronna McDaniel about this or that from 10, 20 or 30 years ago, the "hits"on FoxNews by Republican pols like Gym Jordan or Graham bringing up long debunked claims about Biden or whoever they feel is the frontrunner. It's all going to happen whether the Democrats say anything bad about each other or not. In fact, I think it's much better to get all the negative talking points about each Democratic candidate out now, deal with them and then that leaves Trump zero new things to bring up that haven't already been answered and dealt with during the primaries. I'd rather see that than a last minute thing that comes up right before the election that derails the Democratic candidate and gives them no time to deal with it. Get it all out now. As for Pete, the optics of those meetings were awful and I think the biggest issue for him is connecting with those folks on an emotional level in a way that gives them confidence he's going to take care of things. To be honest I was surprised for a guy who won re-election with 80% of the vote, there seemed to be so little trust of him from those in the room. And they are the people that know him best. He's being tested. let's see how he handles it going forward.

[SmoothLover]

Posted: 7/4/19 at 3:24am

Pete's numbers seem to be shrinking/

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Posted: 7/4/19 at 1:51pm

SmoothLover said: "Pete's numbers seem to be shrinking/"

They are   He’s back to the single digits, well below the front runners.  It appears that the lack of African American support is contagious, if only because people outside that demographic have decided this makes him unelectable.  The pundits believe he’s a likely pick for number 2 on a ticket.   It’ll be a year before I’m ready to excited with that consolation prize, especially because there’s a lot of competition for that slot.

 

Updated On: 7/4/19 at 01:51 PM

[SmoothLover]

Posted: 7/4/19 at 7:59pm

A lot of things can happen in a year so we shall see where it all goes. The police shooting in his hometown was very unfortunate. His black support is like 0% nation wide. The good news is that he has a very bright future.

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 9:59pm

He’s an earnest dude but I don’t think he’s ready to be president or even vice to be honest. I think he has to do some diversity work with understanding communities of color. He seems a little shortsighted in understanding his privilege. Being a white cisgender male, gay or not, means you have to do the legwork to reach those communities.