Bernie vs. Biden

[South Florida]

Posted: 3/13/19 at 5:51pm

This could be close.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 3/13/19 at 5:55pm

Not if Beto gets in the race. Most people believe he’ll split the Bernie vote, leaving Biden with a very firm lead.

[South Florida]

Posted: 3/13/19 at 6:00pm

Truth

[Someone in a Tree2]

Posted: 3/13/19 at 6:43pm

Pundits on MSNBC today find Pete Buttigieg a more formidable candidate than Beto. Sound like wishful thinking at this stage, but man, does Mayor Pete have a gift for explaining complex ideas in a way everyone can get behind.

[Lavieboheme3090]

Posted: 3/13/19 at 11:59pm

If you like Pete make sure you donate $3 to his campaign. The candidates need donations from 65,000 in 20 different states to qualify to be in the DNC debates.

[ucjrdude902]

Posted: 3/14/19 at 12:23am

The same Beto who couldnt win his own state thinks he can win a country? Interesting....

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 3/14/19 at 12:26am

I’m really digging Mayor Pete!

[theatretenor2]

Posted: 3/14/19 at 9:18am

ucjrdude902 said: "The same Beto who couldnt win his own state thinks he can win a country? Interesting...."

Beto made a DEEP red state a serious tossup. The US, as a whole, is more progressive. Beto has a shot.

 

[ACL2006]

Posted: 3/14/19 at 9:47am

I'd say at this point, top 5 are:

1. Biden
2. Sanders
3. Harris
4. O'Rourke
5. Buttigieg

But if Harris doesn't get her act together, Beto & Mayor Pete will hump ahead.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 3/14/19 at 9:54am

I was VERY impressed with Beto this morning.

[LYLS3637]

Posted: 3/14/19 at 10:05am

An email from Mayor Pete's exploratory committee today said he's received donations from just over 55,000 individual donors-- meaning he needs 10,000 more to qualify for a spot on the debate stage (per the DNC rules). I donated the day he announced-- if you haven't yet please consider tossing $3 his way. He's a voice that deserves to be in the conversation.

If you haven't yet, check out his interviews on The View and Colbert or his appearance on the Pod Save America podcast or his CNN Town Hall event from Sunday. You won't be disappointed.

[Someone in a Tree2]

Posted: 3/14/19 at 11:55am

As a Californian, I've been watching Kamala Harris for years. I think she's incredibly smart, and has been on the right side of most issues (if you put aside some of her tougher cases as a state prosecutor) but I feel she lacks the effortless gift of the stump that O'Roarke, Buttigieg, Bernie Sanders and maybe Cory Booker all have going for them. I fear that in any side by side debate, Kamala would appear too professorial and dry, and have a tough time catching fire in the face of those natural orators.

As a comparison, watch Beto's kickoff meet-and-greets in Iowa this morning. Wow.

Updated On: 3/14/19 at 11:55 AM

[ACL2006]

Posted: 3/14/19 at 1:37pm

Also, Beto & Pete have a likable factor that just comes naturally. Kamala Harris still comes off as a tough ass lawyer.

[South Florida]

Posted: 3/14/19 at 2:28pm

I like Buttigieg, and Beto.  Add them to the list.  Still so early.  I think Klobuchar will get more action than Harris or Warren.

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 3/18/19 at 4:38pm

Two old white males battling it out for nomination for POTUS for a party that preaches diversity and white males are evil, the irony of it all.

[Someone in a Tree2]

Posted: 3/18/19 at 5:44pm

I don't know which Democratic Party you're talking about that preaches that all white males are evil. Not mine.

That said, I'm looking into my crystal ball and sadly predicting that the final 2 democratic contenders will in all likelihood be white males (and I bet their names will each start with a B). 

I'll also go on record now and predict that the winning candidate's running mate will definitely be a woman, and almost certainly a woman of color.

 

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 3/18/19 at 11:54pm

"Beto made a DEEP red state a serious tossup. The US, as a whole, is more progressive. Beto has a shot."

I think it was the demographics of Texas changing more than anything. In addition, Ted Cruz is not exactly Mr. Personality - lol.

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 3/19/19 at 12:28am

I think my “ideal” situation would be Biden or Bernie takes 2020, but they have Pete or Beto as his running mate then in 2024 one of them takes the presidency.

If I had to choose my top 5 it would be

Pete
Beto
Stacey
Bernie
Biden

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 3/19/19 at 8:38am

Someone in a Tree2 said: "I don't know which Democratic Party you're talking about that preaches that all white males are evil. Not mine.

That said, I'm looking into my crystal ball and sadly predicting that the final 2 democratic contenders will in all likelihood be white males (and I bet their names will each start with a B).

I'll also go on recordnowand predict that the winning candidate'srunning mate will definitely be a woman, and almost certainly a woman of color."

I tend to agree with everything you said here. I have been hesitant to say anything on social media that could be construed negatively about any of the candidates as they all in reality share most, if not all, of my beliefs. I just have flashbacks to the run-up to 2016 election. Things got very ugly with Democrats and liberals fighting amongst themselves which, in part, contributed to Trump winning. I do fear a repeat of 2016 if Bernie doesn’t get the nomination. If he doesn’t get the nomination, will his diehard supporters just stay home, vote for a third party candidate or vote for Trump ala 2016? I shutter to think. 

I think Biden has the easiest path to the presidency at this point: he’s a seasoned politician (which I realize can also be seen as a detriment), he seems to poll well with millennials, any skeletons in his closet have likely already been exposed, and many will consider this the closest we’ll come to a third term of an Obama presidency. I’d love to see him pick Booker or Harris as his running mate, but wonder if he won’t need a VP candidate from a southern state. 

I admit I haven’t followed the candidates that closely yet. There’s so many right now, it’s like the beginning of a season of The Bachelor or The Bachelorette. It’s only when they get down to the few who get back home dates that I actually learn names and decide who I like the best. My main concern about Beto is has he ever held a elected government office? Of course, it’s early conjecture right now. At this point in 2007 was Obama considered to be a front runner by many people? 

 

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 3/19/19 at 10:30am

Yes, Beto served three terms in the House representing Texas’s 16th District, which is primarily composed of El Paso and surrounding areas

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 3/19/19 at 11:01am

AEA AGMA SM said: "Yes, Beto served three terms in the House representing Texas’s 16th District, which is primarily composed of El Paso and surrounding areas"

^ Thanks for this info! 

 

[Someone in a Tree2]

Posted: 3/19/19 at 5:27pm

^So in that sense, Beto's experience actually surpasses Obama's senatorial career when he ran back in 2008.

I don't think Biden can plausibly claim the Obama magic when he runs on his own-- he will somehow have to catch fire with the Bernie-ites, women, and people of color all on his own merits, or his run will end long before the nomination.

[javero]

Posted: 3/21/19 at 2:35pm

I'll take Biden warts and all, especially if he names Stacey Abrams as his running mate out of the gate.  That single stroke would thin the herd with a quickness. Also, this is purely anecdotal, but I just returned from a brief trip to the Carolinas.  I didn't encounter a single African American registered Democrat or indie over the age of 40 who indicated any interest in Bernie's candidacy, or Beto's.  They're holding out for Uncle Joe! 

Surprisingly, they're not really feeling Kamala Harris whom some accused of lacking "warmth".

Updated On: 3/21/19 at 02:35 PM

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 3/21/19 at 4:31pm

I’m so tired of female candidates being criticized for their lack of “warmth.”

[javero]

Posted: 3/21/19 at 4:55pm

"I’m so tired of female candidates being criticized for their lack of 'warmth.'"

That makes two of us.  I attribute the tendency to the attitudes of my fellow boomers many of whom are just now coming to terms with women in seats of power.  Then there are regional attitudes at play as well.  I don't suspect that it will be resolved before the next general election though.  But, I'm heartened by my dad and uncle's early endorsement of Elizabeth Warren.  Forty years ago neither gentleman would have even considered hiring a woman as an attorney, accountant, or financial planner.

Updated On: 3/21/19 at 04:55 PM